said creator is incredibly distanced to the flag at this point. this is because of a problematic creator and not-too-accurate color meanings. the mlm flag is slowly reaching the point of recognition, much how the updated lesbian flag has beforehand.Ī similar controversy is ongoing with the pan flag as well, which is quite upsetting as the pan flag we all know is very popular. if a symbol something becomes widely recognizable, you really shouldn't attempt to fundamentally change it unless there is a well founded (and i mean WELL founded) reason to do so. Now the question will be asked: why not use alternative flags? this comes down to what part of the point of having a flag is: to be recognized for something. all doing this causes is needless infighting and no real progress is being made. if anything, framing (not even totally) ceding the flag to a more general lgbt cause than specifically for mlms as homophobic is a little myopic, no? if every other identity can have their own specific flag, it makes no sense to exclude gay men from this. the rainbow flag still serves as a flag for us and nobody is disputing that. we have simply recognized that at this point it is more of a general lgbt symbol used by mlm and wlw alike rather than a flag specific to an identity (which we accept).
I have already addressed some of these points in previous pages and some topics are not relevant to this, but i will go over the points made.
not to mention theres been a trend of mlm piggybacking off of lesbian terms lately but thats been spoken about enough." (.) it is also homophobic to equate being a gay man to being the opposite of a lesbian therefore needing a flag thats opposite colors. (.) all of the history and all of the shit gay men have gone through over the years just so young gay people can be like mmm kinda outdated! (.) "dont care about flag discourse but it is crazy how homophobic it sounds to cast away the rainbow flag bc its for everyone therefore "doesnt count" as the gay man flag (.) Recently a tweet went semi-viral that claimed that the mlm flag is "replacing" the rainbow flag. by this same line of thought the sunset flag is a recolor of the lipstick flag, and as such this is a double standard (which lesbians SHOULD NOT have to be shunned for! do not take "cancel the lesbian flag" from this.) Secondly, on the topic of "recoloring problematic flags", remember how i mentioned that you have to vertically flip and 180-degree hue shift the lipstick flag to get vaguely similar (old) mlm flag colors? well, flipping one of the lesbian flags makes it look chromatically similar to the other as well. i understand this concern, but i may draw attention to the fact (and i do not say this to dunk on anybody) the sunset flag has been often used one of its pink colors to represent "femininity". The most valid argument against the mlm flag with regard to it in relation to the lesbian flag is that its color theming is stereotypically masculine. solidarity is important and not something to shut down for puritanical purposes. lesbians and gay men have different but in many ways intertwined histories, and it would be logical to potray this in the color theming of both flags. for the colors of the lesbian and gay flags to best match, you have to vertically flip the sunset flag (keep this in mind)Įven if the flag were a blatant hue shift (it isn't), this is not something to "cancel" the flag for. the difference between the colors are comparable to the hue differences in the lipstick and sunset lesbian flags. the shades of green and blue ARE NOT THE SAME. the colors on either mlm flag do not match with a ctrl u 180-degree hue shift of the lipstick OR sunset lesbian flags. The mlm flag is NOT a hue shift of the lipstick lesbian flag. There are two points to be addressed here. "the (original) mlm flag is a recolor of the lipstick lesbian flag!"